Chat Log: #8chan-dev on rizon (2016-01-01)

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04:32:52 LordRothschild holy shit
04:32:57 LordRothschild next is finally happening
04:33:06 LordRothschild >inb4 error
04:33:07 StephenLynx kek
04:33:14 StephenLynx it was also happening two weeks ago.
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04:33:35 StephenLynx I just want to see what kind of excuse they will have if it fails again.
04:43:01 brkk `PHP WAS A MISTAKE`
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07:28:20 StephenLynx http://8ch.net/tech/src/1451590664558.png
07:28:32 StephenLynx gee, who could imagine josh was lying to get his money?
08:28:08 BigMac pfff
08:31:22 Chocolate_Chip copypaste, n-tech http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/12/30/1742256/twitter-bans-hateful-conduct
08:31:39 Chocolate_Chip You can't have twitters anymore, and should probably boycott the service as a whole
08:32:40 Chocolate_Chip GNU Social is much better anyway
08:33:26 __uguu__ gnu social is worse because it's governed by the FSF
08:33:50 __uguu__ it's like saying we should all use freenet because the web browser uses too much bandwidth for people
08:35:32 Chocolate_Chip Governed by the FSF? Wat
08:35:43 Chocolate_Chip It's made by the GNU Project, yes
08:35:55 Chocolate_Chip But it's not "governed" by anybody
08:36:04 BigMac ^
08:36:37 BigMac The FSF has always promoted decentralized communication technologies
08:36:37 Chocolate_Chip It's also distributed so you can follow people from quitter.se on rainbowdash.net
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08:37:14 Chocolate_Chip https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU_Social
08:37:31 Chocolate_Chip I don't think you can even be banned
08:38:15 Chocolate_Chip I have never found a Code of Conduct, and the only way you could really be "banned" is from your service provider, like the admin of quitter.se or rainbowdash.net
08:39:20 Bui lol nobody uses those autistic twitter alternatives
08:39:44 Chocolate_Chip Nobod used twitter at first either
08:40:34 Chocolate_Chip Now twitter blocks tor and openlly siad they'll sell your data
08:41:03 Bui mfw I actully had a quitter account
08:41:04 Bui https://quitter.se/bui
08:41:41 Chocolate_Chip I'll follow you
08:42:25 OdiliTime gnusocial is terrible UI
08:42:36 Chocolate_Chip OdiliTime, what you just said makes no sense
08:42:43 Chocolate_Chip Each impliemntation uses its own UI
08:42:43 OdiliTime *has
08:42:50 OdiliTime well the default one sucks
08:43:05 Chocolate_Chip Rainbowdash.net is designed to look more like a web forum, while quitter.se looks more like twitter
08:43:13 Chocolate_Chip And quitter.se does a good job with that
08:43:25 Chocolate_Chip OdiliTime, there is no "default" one to my knowledge
08:43:30 OdiliTime there is
08:43:39 OdiliTime yea quitter looks good, I didn't know it was gnusocial
08:45:19 OdiliTime >Username or email address
08:45:21 OdiliTime used email
08:45:25 OdiliTime >Nickname must have only lowercase letters and numbers and no spaces.
08:45:55 OdiliTime quitter.se/odilitime
08:46:30 Chocolate_Chip ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
08:46:34 Chocolate_Chip You followed me first
08:46:51 OdiliTime :)
08:47:16 Bui where are the `rules`
08:47:29 Chocolate_Chip Bui, I can not find a code of conduct anywhere
08:47:51 Chocolate_Chip I assume don't be an ass and tag porn or else the admin of the site you're using will ban you from their implimentation
08:48:48 Bui so much for freedom
08:49:49 Chocolate_Chip Of course, if they did, you could sign up to another implimentation
08:49:58 Bui tbh I trust a corporation's policy more than some random swedish guy who might get triggered by my shitposting
08:50:01 Chocolate_Chip Or host your own implimentation
08:50:21 Chocolate_Chip I haven't heard of anyone being banned from GNU Social yet
08:50:59 Chocolate_Chip https://quitter.se/notice/4008494
08:51:35 OdiliTime sealion.club was the other one I had seen
08:51:50 OdiliTime looks like they updated too, but seems to be different network than quitter
08:51:51 Chocolate_Chip never saw this
08:51:58 Chocolate_Chip rainbowdash.net guys
08:52:18 Chocolate_Chip It runs software from when it was still called statusnet
08:52:33 OdiliTime oh that's what happened to statusnet
08:53:32 Chocolate_Chip Yeah. StatusNet became GNUSocial
08:53:57 Chocolate_Chip brb
09:03:46 guy9000 >all these threads on /tech/ about inext
09:03:52 guy9000 >most of them shitposts
09:03:53 guy9000 holy hell
09:07:03 __uguu__ guy9000, just wait until the USA election they'll all forget about it
09:07:23 Bui s/ about inext//
09:07:29 Bui agreed
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09:11:31 Chocolate_Chip BAK
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10:45:17 brkk happy new year
10:47:25 __uguu__ s/n/j/
10:47:55 Chocolate_Chip 6 PM 4 me
10:53:44 Chocolate_Chip n-tech, you know what would be great? Haivng a telnet version of the site
10:53:52 Chocolate_Chip Old school BBS access
10:54:14 Chocolate_Chip Call it Infinity Previous
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11:11:00 OdiliTime kek
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12:11:23 Bui but it already exists
12:11:25 Bui https://my.mixtape.moe/akzdnb.webm
12:11:27 Bui :^)
12:17:17 LordRothschild infinity next migration seems to be ok so far
12:17:28 LordRothschild n-tech seems to be busy
12:17:30 LordRothschild so no banter
12:18:02 StephenLynx kek
12:18:07 StephenLynx the migration is not the issue.
12:18:20 StephenLynx and btw
12:18:24 StephenLynx there was an issue
12:18:31 StephenLynx that caused them to start all over.
12:18:42 StephenLynx because the first migration of just new stuff didn't worked out.
12:19:49 LordRothschild rip
12:20:39 StephenLynx I would still wait to declare it kill though
12:29:33 Chocolate_Chip wait
12:29:51 Chocolate_Chip If there's an infinity next migration happening, why isn't there any messages saying that
12:29:56 StephenLynx hehehe
12:30:07 StephenLynx if it fails, how will the mob know?
12:30:10 StephenLynx indeed
12:30:16 StephenLynx why isn't there an announcement?
12:30:22 Chocolate_Chip Is it happening now>
12:30:26 Chocolate_Chip Everything is still up
12:30:30 StephenLynx its been happening for a while.
12:30:43 LordRothschild they're keeping the vichan version up this time
12:30:51 StephenLynx if only you knew how bad things really are.
12:31:16 Chocolate_Chip StephenLynx, I was there during the fail
12:31:18 StephenLynx josh just admittedly said he lied about his promises.
12:31:28 Chocolate_Chip where
12:31:30 StephenLynx sec
12:31:44 StephenLynx http://8ch.net/next/res/3556.html#3762
12:32:05 StephenLynx he was always more concerned about making his money than the well-being of 8ch.
12:32:07 StephenLynx but hey
12:32:15 StephenLynx I think its a little too late now.
12:32:22 Chocolate_Chip I didn't know about this board
12:32:25 StephenLynx heh
12:32:34 StephenLynx I am telling you.
12:32:41 Chocolate_Chip I thought he lived in Japan
12:32:42 StephenLynx you have no idea how bad things really are.
12:32:47 Chocolate_Chip The user flag is Philipeens
12:33:04 StephenLynx most people dont't and there was no effort in informing people besides "GIB MONI, SITE IS KILL"
12:33:05 LordRothschild oh wow
12:33:13 LordRothschild you really do have no idea
12:33:24 LordRothschild what's going on do you
12:33:55 StephenLynx even HW told me he misjudged josh's intentions at some point, a few months ago.
12:34:19 Chocolate_Chip I guess I'm in the dark
12:34:32 StephenLynx <copypaste> anyway, i misinterpreted josh's actions a few days ago and that's why i contacted you. lynxchan still is pretty interesting though, i hope you keep developing it, so when the time comes for a switchover, they canb e compared.
12:34:51 StephenLynx but he wouldn't explain what exactly happened.
12:35:47 LordRothschild >inb4 FBI took over
12:35:52 StephenLynx what we know is that josh always had his money as top priority and lied shamelessly to protect it.
12:36:08 StephenLynx I wouldn't be surprised if part of the shit he talks about me is out of malice and not ignorance.
12:36:28 Chocolate_Chip There was a funny webm
12:36:38 StephenLynx that starts with castle 4chan?
12:36:45 Chocolate_Chip Yes
12:36:50 Chocolate_Chip I can't find the link atm
12:36:57 StephenLynx heh, look at that
12:37:01 Chocolate_Chip "4chan: Hobbiest Community"
12:37:11 StephenLynx I got the logs even from before HW decided to go with next
12:37:15 StephenLynx and it was called larachan
12:37:22 StephenLynx oh man
12:37:32 Chocolate_Chip Also saw Josh's page on Encyclopedia Dramatica
12:37:51 Chocolate_Chip It's vastly out of date and he used to use odd nicknames I've never seen him use now
12:38:34 StephenLynx <copypaste> I told this guy that
12:38:34 StephenLynx <copypaste> And what does he do?
12:38:34 StephenLynx <copypaste> Creates a brand new awful style
12:38:34 StephenLynx <copypaste> Look at that floating reply box lol
12:38:34 StephenLynx <StephenLynx> I don't intend to give much input on the front-end.
12:38:35 StephenLynx <copypaste> Not even the colors are the same. Can you imagine deploying this?
12:38:42 StephenLynx he is talking about josh here.
12:38:53 Chocolate_Chip hmm
12:38:58 StephenLynx it surprises me that he was so concerned about this back then
12:39:04 StephenLynx and then let josh run amok.
12:39:23 StephenLynx <copypaste> One requirement is no big departure from the current style.
12:39:25 Chocolate_Chip I don't really understand the need for Infinty Next, but I can only say that it looks modern
12:39:38 Chocolate_Chip I don't know enough to criticize it though
12:39:41 StephenLynx the need is to fix the IO issue on the current software.
12:39:53 StephenLynx it could be achieve in a number of ways.
12:40:03 StephenLynx some dude recently actually fixed it
12:40:17 StephenLynx by writing pages to RAM instead of the disk.
12:40:39 StephenLynx the other is writing new software that doesn't saturates IO, like next or lynxchan.
12:41:03 StephenLynx infinity is also extremely hacked and bad to maintain, so I can understand the need of a new back-end.
12:41:17 Chocolate_Chip I personally don't like these Rich User Experience websites
12:41:21 StephenLynx but problem with josh is that he is a front-end developer that sees himself as a genius.
12:41:29 StephenLynx thus, the bullshit UI of next.
12:41:34 Chocolate_Chip Still though, it's better than the message boards of the late 1990's on the web
12:41:57 StephenLynx but a worse experience than current chan software we have.
12:42:42 Chocolate_Chip I was told that the software 4chan runs was last updated in 2004
12:42:49 Chocolate_Chip That true?
12:42:58 StephenLynx no idea.
12:43:02 StephenLynx but I think that is incorrect.
12:43:19 Chocolate_Chip The software is older though, isn't it?
12:43:43 StephenLynx I don't really know, since its proprietary.
12:43:54 StephenLynx and even moot wasn't transparent about its changes.
12:44:16 StephenLynx and hiro isn't going to be any better
12:44:29 StephenLynx since he's more malicious.
12:44:50 Chocolate_Chip At least image boards don't look like this: http://www.boychat.org/
12:45:22 Chocolate_Chip The software this si running probably hasn't been updated since 1999
12:45:39 LordRothschild 4chan
12:45:47 LordRothschild did actually update their software
12:45:54 LordRothschild nobody knows full details tho
12:46:19 StephenLynx oh lord
12:46:29 StephenLynx I tried to use a site with that format once
12:46:43 StephenLynx even after days I couldn't figure everything
12:47:10 Chocolate_Chip StephenLynx, that's because the thinking for message boards in the 90's was still based on Dial-Up/Telnet BBS Messages
12:47:19 Chocolate_Chip Where they were ACTUALLY email chains
12:47:23 Chocolate_Chip And forget about images
12:47:27 StephenLynx yeah
12:47:41 Chocolate_Chip I think moot really did the world good by making the first american Imageboard
12:47:51 StephenLynx yeah
12:47:57 StephenLynx the chan format is pretty timeless.
12:48:31 Chocolate_Chip Discussion boards in the 90's were mostly email too, through mailing lists
12:48:41 StephenLynx it is like a forum, but cleaner and ephemeral.
12:48:43 Chocolate_Chip But the web ones looked a lot like that
12:48:54 LordRothschild >inb4 normalfags flood imageboards and they become the next facebook
12:49:03 StephenLynx nah
12:49:09 StephenLynx chans dont have the
12:49:12 LordRothschild imagine tripcodes with user profiles
12:49:20 StephenLynx ego traps that attract them.
12:49:36 StephenLynx however, there is a chan that tries to be some fucked up social media abortion
12:49:38 Chocolate_Chip And when you posted to these message boards, it was expected to have an avitar and a signature
12:49:40 LordRothschild ego traps?
12:49:41 Chocolate_Chip Signed,
12:49:48 Chocolate_Chip The one, the only Chocolate Chip!
12:49:55 Chocolate_Chip http://choco.neocities.org/
12:50:05 StephenLynx LordRothschild likes, profiles, counters of popularity of sorts.
12:50:10 Chocolate_Chip Messageboard B, where [funny joke here]
12:50:11 StephenLynx followers
12:50:12 LordRothschild imagine some sort of social media-image board abortion
12:50:22 LordRothschild easy to implement goyim
12:50:29 LordRothschild one line
12:50:32 Chocolate_Chip I got a sig like that for my furaffinity
12:50:39 LordRothschild with a tripe that links to a profile
12:50:42 StephenLynx LordRothschild 77chan.com
12:50:45 LordRothschild good goy points
12:50:59 LordRothschild and "share this post with your friends"
12:51:06 StephenLynx https://tripchan.moe/ this one requires accounts
12:51:07 Chocolate_Chip Signed,
12:51:07 Chocolate_Chip The One, The only... CHOCOLATE CHIP!
12:51:07 Chocolate_Chip http://choco.neocities.org/
12:51:07 Chocolate_Chip Furaffinity: Where "saving animals" takes on a whole new meaning
12:51:25 LordRothschild and like
12:51:30 LordRothschild a curated overboard
12:51:36 LordRothschild for friend shit
12:51:49 LordRothschild twitter integration
12:51:53 LordRothschild facebook logins
12:52:07 LordRothschild shitty zynga games
12:53:23 Chocolate_Chip brb
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16:00:38 Chocolate_Chip [AMSG] Happy New Year. 2016, it is now the current year
16:01:28 LordRothschild happy new year
16:01:38 LordRothschild rip getting next before 2016
17:05:16 Fr33K redchanit 2.0 migration take 2, lets see if we can successfully kill off 8chan this time
17:09:10 LordRothschild haven't been any Twitter updates
17:09:12 LordRothschild in a while
17:09:15 LordRothschild lemme go check
17:09:55 LordRothschild https://mobile.twitter.com/8ntech/status/682772171215601664
17:13:12 LordRothschild it's gonna fucking fail
17:13:20 LordRothschild too long without update
17:13:25 LordRothschild dead silent in IRC
17:14:01 Chocolate_Chip It's 1 am
17:14:07 Chocolate_Chip 3 for the east coast
17:25:01 LordRothschild silent night
17:25:06 LordRothschild no next to be seen
17:25:21 LordRothschild the part I dislike most isn't the UI issues
17:25:24 LordRothschild the delays
17:25:37 LordRothschild the bugs and unfinished features
17:25:51 LordRothschild I just wish Josh was more professional about it all
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